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Vieux 04/06/2008, 01h56
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Par défaut R.A.J. wants budget for education in male homosexual sex and AIDS

Rama Sithanen, the Minister of Finance, is right not to listen to the ‘advice’ of the anonymous writer under the initials R.A.J. as he (she) demonstrates not only a poor understanding of the market-oriented principles of and complexities in government budgets but also because of his hidden agenda under the cover of his pretended caring for the poor.


Reading R.A.J.’s article « The next budget : Time to alleviate the living conditions of the poor », le Défi Blog, 28 mai 2008, a reasonable person would find it preposterous how someone who displays hardly any knowledge of government budgetary and accounting methods and controls with all its complexities can possibly even dream of advising, under anonymity, the Minister of Finance Rama Sithanen on how he should allocate his budget under constraints of which only the Minister and his expert technicians have first knowledge. Then he finds it strange that the Finance Minister will simply ignore him. « But Sithanen won’t do it », says R.A.J. Of course he won’t, and rightly so !

Socialism
R.A.J. wrongly believes that socialism « is fundamentally based on the redistribution of resources from the rich to the poor », without stating which type of socialism he is talking about. Socialism is an intermediate state between capitalism and communism where key manufacturing and service industries, land and property and the distribution of wealth are owned by the State but democratically controlled. Mauritius has a mixed economy. Taxing the rich to help the poor is only one element in the redistribution of wealth. But the « redistribution of resources » which the anonymous author mentions without explanation may mean something completely different, although he wrongly takes it to mean imposing « a tax on petrol/diesel » which already exists anyway. He probably means increasing the tax. But such a measure would affect both the rich and the poor. He even goes not to quote the petrol tax in the UK, an oil producing nation, without the slightest idea of the type of oil extracted in the North Sea. No wonder, he knows that Mr Sithanen will ignore him.

Provoking riots
R.A.J.’s sees in his ‘crystal ball’ that, within the next two years (probably until the next general elections), there will be such shortage of grain supply that he predicts « the risks of food riots and malnutrition » in Mauritius similar to the riots in Italy, India, Egypt, and so on, he said. He ‘advises’ the government to « delay non-essential public projects » to stockpile food but, instead of identifying those projects he speaks about tax on petrol. While elsewhere people are advised to grow their own potatoes, vegetables and fruits, R.A.J. is raising the conscience of Mauritians affected by this global phenomenon in the riot strategy like in India, Egypt, etc. This may well be seen as an incitement.

Education in male homosexual sex and AIDS
Ignorant of the fact that the Minister of Finance can only budget upon approved heads and figures, and that biology is already taught in our schools, R.A.J. wants him to budget for « sex education » in « all secondary schools » which may not even be an item in the budget. For him, sex education effectively boils down to male homosexuality and AIDS since he based his ‘advice’ merely upon figures, which details he does not provide, allegedly showing an increase in the number of children tested HIV positive without specifying where. If it affects other countries, why should it be budgeted in Mauritius? Since R.A.J. knows that Mauritian children are learning about sex through the internet as he has witnessed those « mechanical thrusting and heaving of online porn movies », is it not for responsible parents to ensure security and for government to tighten the laws? Why is he so keen for Mauritian children to have secular education in male homosexual sex and AIDS introduced in Mauritius by copying others? Why not copy others’ advances in science and technology? Readers should note that, in his article « Corporate Social Responsibility », le Défi Blog 21 May 2008, R.A.J. already introduced the personal philanthropy of homosexual singer Elton John towards AIDS sufferers when this has nothing to do with Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR). Now we know where he was coming from.

Although Europeans make out that AIDS originated form Africa through the practice of sex by Black Africans with monkeys, research shows that AIDS originated form male homosexual practice amongst White Europeans which have consequently spread to heterosexuals and children through infections. The first recognised cases of AIDS occurred in New York and California in the early 1980’s among male homosexuals. Do Mauritian parents want such education for their children in schools, given the high risk that this might arouse their experimental curiosity and affect their sexual orientation? R.A.J. quoted the Holy Bible to Priest Grégoire in the context of créolité (which is not a biblical term) [Ref. The six demands of Père Grégoire, le Mauricien 6 mai 2008] but ignores the Holy Bible in the case of male homosexual sex. And then he has the audacity to accuse Mr Sithanen of not listening because « too many pandits, imams and priests » will object. One wonders who he is really targeting amongst those three.

Conclusion
Once more, Mauritian readers are being duped by another April the first style narcissist interpretation of budgetary and other principles in order to push forward one’s personal depraved agenda under the pretended caring for the poor.

M Rafic Soormally
London
01 June 2008

cc. Rama Sithanen, Ministry of Finance and Economic Development
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Vieux 04/06/2008, 12h44
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Education in male homosexual sex and AIDS
Ignorant of the fact that the Minister of Finance can only budget upon approved heads and figures, and that biology is already taught in our schools, R.A.J. wants him to budget for « sex education » in « all secondary schools » which may not even be an item in the budget. For him, sex education effectively boils down to male homosexuality and AIDS since he based his ‘advice’ merely upon figures, which details he does not provide, allegedly showing an increase in the number of children tested HIV positive without specifying where. If it affects other countries, why should it be budgeted in Mauritius? Since R.A.J. knows that Mauritian children are learning about sex through the internet as he has witnessed those « mechanical thrusting and heaving of online porn movies », is it not for responsible parents to ensure security and for government to tighten the laws? Why is he so keen for Mauritian children to have secular education in male homosexual sex and AIDS introduced in Mauritius by copying others? Why not copy others’ advances in science and technology? Readers should note that, in his article « Corporate Social Responsibility », le Défi Blog 21 May 2008, R.A.J. already introduced the personal philanthropy of homosexual singer Elton John towards AIDS sufferers when this has nothing to do with Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR). Now we know where he was coming from.

Although Europeans make out that AIDS originated form Africa through the practice of sex by Black Africans with monkeys, research shows that AIDS originated form male homosexual practice amongst White Europeans which have consequently spread to heterosexuals and children through infections. The first recognised cases of AIDS occurred in New York and California in the early 1980’s among male homosexuals. Do Mauritian parents want such education for their children in schools, given the high risk that this might arouse their experimental curiosity and affect their sexual orientation? R.A.J. quoted the Holy Bible to Priest Grégoire in the context of créolité (which is not a biblical term) [Ref. The six demands of Père Grégoire, le Mauricien 6 mai 2008] but ignores the Holy Bible in the case of male homosexual sex. And then he has the audacity to accuse Mr Sithanen of not listening because « too many pandits, imams and priests » will object. One wonders who he is really targeting amongst those three.

I just wonder whether you were aware that we are already in the 21st century... Your thoughts seems to date from 1958...

I also wonder if you actually live in the UK since "sex education" forms part of standard school programs up there (not sure about private schools though). Stats in developping countries have proven that AIDS and pre-youth pregnancy rates have dropped considerably years after the introduction of such programs.

I understand that it is up to the parents to choose if they want their children to be teached about sexual matters at school but please do not decide for the country, especially when reality shows this is a needed and good working program. Just sent your kids to another (religious?) school...
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Vieux 05/06/2008, 00h35
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Par défaut Sodom and Gomorrah

Given your logic, would it be fair to say that you think you are living during the times of Sodom and Gomorrah? Why is it that as soon as AIDS are discovered in the United States, the whole world catches AIDS?
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Vieux 06/06/2008, 12h26
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My point is that nowadays (in the year 2008 indeed) teenagers are exposed to sexual intercourse a lot an earlier on more than we parents want to believe. Considering that their decissions with regards to sexual matters will be made 50% based on education and values passed by the parents and 50% by what they observe in their environment (school, friends and media -tv and internet-) I believe it is for their best to get a good basic sexual education from the school, the do's and dont's, etc. Keeping sex as a tabou will definetively not do them good and potentially expose them to dangerous situations.

Another option would be keeping our kids shutted down at home, disconnected from the outside, the real word, which I don't think is a solution.

Didn't "catch" your point on AIDS, what do you mean when you say that the whole world catches AIDS? Do you watch TV and read the papers?
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Vieux 06/06/2008, 15h35
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Par défaut Biology is taught in Mauritian schools

I do not consider your question « Do you watch TV and read the papers? » as an intelligent question worthy of a reply. If you wish to debate seriously, you should stop being sarcastic and insulting. You should first ask yourself whether you are reading the right materials and watching the proper tv programmes. Any reasonable person would understand that AIDS only became an international issue since the virus was discovered in the US.

You appear to have missed the point made about the subject of biology being already taught in Mauritian schools. Mauritians are much more advanced than you think. If you wish to teach your children about homosexual sex and AIDS, why don’t you do so in the comfort of your own home given what you read and watch instead of trying to impose it on others? Parental guidance is most important. Is it not?
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Vieux 13/06/2008, 16h16
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Par défaut Totally agree with Hills

I gather from your long sentences and flooding of space, Mr Soormally, that you only want to come forward and show your 'intelligence'. I would however dare to say that what you wrote is your own opinion, and Hills is simply pointing out that your opinion doesn't represent the whole Mauritius and shouldn't even pretent to be so.

I found more agressivity and homophobia between the lines of your comments, that in the direct words of Hills.

If you really want to protect your children from homosexuality, then the best way to do it is to formally teach them about it.. if you feel that's a dangerous thing, then they'll be warned and protect. It will be more of a danger if they discover it the hard way, won't it?

My sincere belief is that education, in whatever field it may be, remains an essential part of human development. You are denying sexual education, then you are taking the risks to create, for example, higher abortion rates and AIDS proliferation.

It was my opinion, and doesn't represent the views of any community, population or group.
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Vieux 15/06/2008, 19h40
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Par défaut Marriage Registrar Lilian Ladele refuses to act against her Christian beliefs

It is a classical approach to accuse anyone of ‘homophobia’ when a case is made against the teaching of homosexuality and AIDs in our schools which already teach biology anyway. Through such accusation, the object is to allow that which is condemned in the Holy Bible and many other holy books as a sin. When Mahatma Gandhi was arguing for an end of the terrorist occupation of his country, he was accused as a Hindu fundamentalist by those terrorists who were justifying occupation.

If your understanding of ‘intelligence’ is just throwing a few words and accusations right, left and centre, then good luck to you. According to your logic, if someone were to make a case against what you are saying, that person would, « between the lines », be guilty of ‘nadeemophobia’. First, learn to read and understand what are on the lines before you even think of attempting to read what is between them. What you do between your own sheets in your home, and what you wish to teach your children in your home is entirely up to you as long as you do not break the law. You have the freedom to do so. This is not ‘homophobia’ as you put it. One is free to be a homophile, but one cannot impose on others one’s orientation towards the same sex, if anal sex among males can be called sexual intercourse ! But what we are witnessing in schools and across the media in Europe is an advertising campaign in favour of homosexuality, particularly male homosexuality. Church-going, Mosque-going, Temple-going and even most non-religious Mauritians are guided by high moral principles which we can share with our European counterparts who have absolutely nothing to teach in this department. Mauritians should copy the good things and reject the bad.

Although the Civil partnership Act 2004 gives same-sex couples the same rights as married couples, Lilian Ladele, the Registrar of Islington Council, London, refused to preside over such ceremonies because this goes against her Christian beliefs. Whether or not her case for an exemption is granted, no one can accuse her of ‘homophobia’. This is a very cheap and bankrupt argument. Similarly, those making a case against prostitution, even though legal in many secular countries, cannot be accused of phobia against prostitutes.
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